CERES、shortwave flux

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CERES、shortwave flux

by summerland88 » Sat Mar 27, 2021 9:57 pm America/New_York

I have found remarkable deviation between ISCCP-FH-MPF and CERES monthly data of downward shortwave flux. It's seems like ISCCP-FH-MPF is twice of the CERES. So I wanna know if there is a scale factor between CERES value and real value. If not, please mention me the possible reason. Thanks a lot!!

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Re: CERES、shortwave flux

by ASDC - joseph.f.koch » Wed Apr 07, 2021 12:44 pm America/New_York

Hi Summer,

We reached out to our CERES subject-matter expert (SME) and are actively reviewing your questions to provide you the information you are looking for.

In the meantime, here are a few resources that may serve useful:

https://isccp.giss.nasa.gov/docs/docSoftware.html (note* the information contained on this website is no longer actively maintained)

https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/isccp/isccp-d ... isccp-data will provide you with the most up-to-date information regarding ISCCP data.

A response from the CERES SME will be forthcoming.

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Re: CERES、shortwave flux

by wfmiller » Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:59 pm America/New_York

Hi!,

I am not familiar with the ISCCP-FH-MPF product, but pulled down the file for January 2017 and viewed it in Panoply and compared it with our EBAF product for the same date. I compared the sxd1fl, surface downward shortwave flux all sky in ISCCP-FH-MPF, with the EBAF Surface Shortwave Flux Down All Sky (https://ceres-tool.larc.nasa.gov/ord-to ... ection.jsp). Even though the ISCCP-FH-MPF product indicates a scaling factor of 10, but it appears to be a scaling factor of 100.

The global information from Panoply for the ISCCP-FH-MPF is, Data Min = 0.0; Max = 43370.0; and Mean = 19095.1
The same information for EBAF is Mean: 194.6490 ; Std Dev: 98.3445 ; min=0.000 , max=422.024.

If you apply a scaling factor of 100 for ISCCP-FH-MPF, the means would be 190.95 vs 194.65.

The solar incoming for CERES is daily varying with mean of 1361, and ISCCP is using 1367 with daily varying according to doi:10.1029/2003JD004457. Which likely accounts for most of the difference between the two values.

This does not seem to correspond with a factor of two difference. There are several downward shortwave flux in the ISCCP files, all-sky, clear, diffuse, and direct that might account for the difference.

If you want to provide the CERES product you are using and the exact fields in the two products, I can investigate further.

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